Trust me I don't think you disagree with me. I am just trying to represent a hand full of the guys that have questioned it. I have raced enduros and the equivalent of the cyclones at other tracks. Those are clearly defined as entry level divisions. The question I have is, our we an entry level division? No one at the track is racing to make a profit. We our all there for fun and as a hobby. My only question is where do we fit in at the track. As you move up divisions the cost goes up why not the pay out? Yes the entry level division pays $10 for tire stamping we pay $25. But wait with ten cars fourth pays $40 in the cyclones and $25 for us. With 15 cars fourth pays $55 in the cyclones and $25 for us. By the way the way I have been told to tighten the belts and get ready cause you can wheel a racecar. I look forward to racing with you It's going to be fun. See ya at the meeting.